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مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : I have attempted to invite some brothers...



User101
27-04-2010, 11:15 AM
In the Name of Allah!

I have tried to expand the age of discussion by calling 5 orators to this website and hopefully they will help expand this information. All 5 of them are Muslim orators with great influence through
.the internet and TV

They are :

Zakir Naik

Abdur Rahim Green

Yusuf Estes

Sheikh Imran Hosein

Bilal Philips

Only now I regret to say I made a mistake. In my email to them I forgot to begin with (bismillah) In the name of Allah

And skipped straight to salaam instead ie. peace be upon you. Is there a dua for forgetfulness for I don't think these messages will reach them

جومارت
27-04-2010, 12:44 PM
Aslam alykom wa rhamat allah we baraktoh
dear brother do you know the purpose of imam's forums?
yes for the discussions and dialogues
and the doors open for anyone who is want to know
the truth ,and yes you and Mr
(Richard Dawkins) are welcomed in imam website
for discussions,
and about the translation process
maybe my brother Hussein ebn Omar
the Founder and the manager of imam's forums will volunteer to translate,or
i will translate or one of the imam supporter who can
write and speak English well
in Allah wells,this my suggestions

so it's better to wait until the imam get informed about your idea
and if imam approved about it then it's OK
but in all cases invite Mr Richard Dawkins in the international section
to read imam statements

and jazak Allah kol 7'ier
for your concern

oceanmen
28-04-2010, 03:12 AM
Bism Allah al rahman al Raheem

Salaam Alaykim Brother
i would like to offer any translation if needed
as for your question of duaa for forgetfulness
i remember the Imam mentioned this duaa from koran

رَبَّنَا لَا تُؤَاخِذۡنَآ إِن نَّسِينَآ أَوۡ أَخۡطَأۡنَا‌ۚ رَبَّنَا وَلَا تَحۡمِلۡ عَلَيۡنَآ إِصۡرً۬ا كَمَا حَمَلۡتَهُ ۥ عَلَى ٱلَّذِينَ مِن قَبۡلِنَا‌ۚ رَبَّنَا وَلَا تُحَمِّلۡنَا مَا لَا طَاقَةَ لَنَا بِهِۦ‌ۖ وَٱعۡفُ عَنَّا وَٱغۡفِرۡ لَنَا وَٱرۡحَمۡنَآ‌ۚ أَنتَ مَوۡلَٮٰنَا فَٱنصُرۡنَا عَلَى ٱلۡقَوۡمِ ٱلۡڪَـٰفِرِينَ
Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget, or miss the mark! Our Lord! Lay not on us such a burden as thou didst lay on those before us! Our Lord! Impose not on us that which we have not the strength to bear! Pardon us, absolve us and have mercy on us, Thou, our Protector, and give us victory over the disbelieving folk. (286)
-Baqara--

User101
28-04-2010, 04:12 AM
Its as I feared, I have got a reply from one invitation that they think this was a joke

Allah relates the story of Nuh (AS) in the Quran where he was building the ark and the Chieftans passing by him mocked at him and he said: though ye mock us we mock at you. It shows how Nuh (AS) was wise*

oceanmen
28-04-2010, 09:30 AM
bism Allah al Rahman Al Rahim

what do they have to loose if they read the articles?
perhaps you can send him this ayah:

وَقَالَ رَجُلٌ مُّؤْمِنٌ مِّنْ آلِ فِرْعَوْنَ يَكْتُمُ إِيمَانَهُ أَتَقْتُلُونَ رَجُلًا أَن يَقُولَ رَبِّيَ اللَّهُ وَقَدْ جَاءَكُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ مِن رَّبِّكُمْ ۖ وَإِن يَكُ كَاذِبًا فَعَلَيْهِ كَذِبُهُ ۖ وَإِن يَكُ صَادِقًا يُصِبْكُم بَعْضُ الَّذِي يَعِدُكُمْ ۖ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِي مَنْ هُوَ مُسْرِفٌ كَذَّابٌ
A believer, a man from among the people of Pharaoh, who had concealed his faith, said: "Will ye slay a man because he says, 'My Lord is Allah.?- when he has indeed come to you with Clear (Signs) from your Lord? and if he be a liar, on him is (the sin of) his lie: but, if he is telling the Truth, then will fall on you something of the (calamity) of which he warns you: Truly Allah guides not one who transgresses and lies!
Ghafir, Chapter #40, Verse #28


they will find answers for all their pre-conceived notions about the mahdi
the problem is that there are so many fake fabricated hadith
and that people have become so attached to those hadith
and they refuse to accept any mahdi who does not match the hadith
even if the hadith is not authenic (in line with Koran)
they speak of narrations as if the science of Narration will always be protected
when in fact the only book protected from corruption is the koran

Example
some people refuse to accept any mahdi unless his name is "Mohamed Abdullah" and when the see the name "Nasser Mohamed ElYemeni" they stop reading
when the koran clearly proofs that the prophecized name is not always the actual name
in line with the ayah

وَإِذْ قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُم مُّصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَمُبَشِّرًا
بِرَسُولٍ يَأْتِي مِن بَعْدِي اسْمُهُ أَحْمَدُ ۖ فَلَمَّا جَاءَهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ قَالُوا هَـٰذَا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ

And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of Allah
(sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"

Even Imam Nasser Mohamed Elyemeni said clearly
belief what you like, if you think i am not The Mahdi but just a person who tries to Unite people, then so be it, as long as you read the message and understand it and belief in it
because my message is the message of Prophet Mohamed, and the message of Prophet Jesus son of Mary and of all the prophets-to belief in one prophet and not take any partners unto him and to warn them of a danger coming

Salaam Alaykum

oceanmen
28-04-2010, 09:36 AM
The people are afraid to read more of the Imam Articles
because they fear of he is not the real Mahdi -
but the real problem is this: what if he IS the real mahdi
did they think of this possibility?

the truth will be shown to all mankind
when the public Baya happens in Mecca
it will be during the passing of planet Sijil/Saqar

best to be patient my friend and grief not about those who think it is a joke
may Allah guide them to the truth and sharpen their insight
so Allah is pleased with all his creations and griefs not about anyone

Salaam Alaykum friend