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مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : Is there the past time in the life after death?



TamerlanKuzgov
08-06-2019, 08:57 PM
Assalam Aleykum,

I wish happy Ramadan to all righteous muslims, and have a question is there the past time ( memory of the past) in the life after we will be granted the garden or punishment of the hell?

الفقير الى الله
08-06-2019, 09:39 PM
Assalam Aleykum,

I wish happy Ramadan to all righteous muslims, and have a question is there the past time ( memory of the past) in the life after we will be granted the garden or punishment of the hell?



Wa alakom Al slam wa rahmat Allah wa barkatoh and allha's pleasures upon you my brother from another mother

First I want you to know that there's an explanation from al immam from the holy Quran about this matter but I guess it's not translated yet so I'll try to explain in my words what I understood

Yes all memories return in the after life including the past memories before we were born and after we were created with our father Adam pice be upon him as we all testified on allah's oneness when we where sperms in Adams back, but humanity forgets that oath after they were born and when we are resurrected in the after life humanity will remember that oath and those who got strayed will ask Allah why did you gather my blind when I was once seeing and Allah will answer him that his signs came to you and you forgot them that's why this day you will be forgotten .

And Ramadan mobarak on you and you'r whole house hold

TamerlanKuzgov
09-06-2019, 05:10 PM
Thank you very much for your good and kind words. Allah's bless on you and your family. You didn't even imagine how i am happy to know the truth you have told me right now.

الفقير الى الله
09-06-2019, 10:29 PM
I'm happy to be helpful in any way my brother and if you need anything don't hesitate to ask and well do our best to help may Allah shower you with his blessings

TamerlanKuzgov
23-07-2019, 09:32 PM
I'm happy to be helpful in any way my brother and if you need anything don't hesitate to ask and well do our best to help may Allah shower you with his blessings

Thank you. And you have the same, may Allah have blessings on you and your family.

TamerlanKuzgov
11-01-2020, 07:05 PM
Assalam Aleykum brother, my question was ignored or missed about month ago. Could you please answer the question: How time goes right after death? The 100 years of life after death is like a 1 year in the earth? Am i right?

أسد الله من جنود الإمام المهدي
11-01-2020, 07:20 PM
قَٰلَ كَمۡ لَبِثۡتُمۡ فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِ عَدَدَ سِنِينَ
112. He (Allâh) will say: "What number of years did you stay on earth?"


آية: 113
قَالُواْ لَبِثۡنَا يَوۡمًا أَوۡ بَعۡضَ يَوۡمٖ فَسۡـَٔلِ ٱلۡعَآدِّينَ
113. They will say: "We stayed a day or part of a day. Ask of those who keep account."


آية: 114
قَٰلَ إِن لَّبِثۡتُمۡ إِلَّا قَلِيلٗاۖ لَّوۡ أَنَّكُمۡ كُنتُمۡ تَعۡلَمُونَ
114. He (Allâh) will say: "You stayed not but a little, if you had only known!


آية: 115
أَفَحَسِبۡتُمۡ أَنَّمَا خَلَقۡنَٰكُمۡ عَبَثٗا وَأَنَّكُمۡ إِلَيۡنَا لَا تُرۡجَعُونَ
115. "Did you think that We had created you in play (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?"

TamerlanKuzgov
11-01-2020, 08:17 PM
قَٰلَ كَمۡ لَبِثۡتُمۡ فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِ عَدَدَ سِنِينَ
112. He (Allâh) will say: "What number of years did you stay on earth?"


آية: 113
قَالُواْ لَبِثۡنَا يَوۡمًا أَوۡ بَعۡضَ يَوۡمٖ فَسۡـَٔلِ ٱلۡعَآدِّينَ
113. They will say: "We stayed a day or part of a day. Ask of those who keep account."


آية: 114
قَٰلَ إِن لَّبِثۡتُمۡ إِلَّا قَلِيلٗاۖ لَّوۡ أَنَّكُمۡ كُنتُمۡ تَعۡلَمُونَ
114. He (Allâh) will say: "You stayed not but a little, if you had only known!


آية: 115
أَفَحَسِبۡتُمۡ أَنَّمَا خَلَقۡنَٰكُمۡ عَبَثٗا وَأَنَّكُمۡ إِلَيۡنَا لَا تُرۡجَعُونَ
115. "Did you think that We had created you in play (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?"

Thank you very much for your reply. Those dead people who abide in the Garden or Hell after death have they got time goes are so fast? I've though these ayats touch only those who dead as those living people who deeply sleep.

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I don't think the poeple in Hell will feel as if they have been there for a one day or half. It is not punishment for them..)...can you give example of those who are in Garden and Hell...for example, a 1 year of people in the Garden is 10 years in the Earth"..?

أسد الله من جنود الإمام المهدي
11-01-2020, 08:51 PM
I don't think the poeple in Hell will feel as if they have been there for a one day or half. It is not punishment for them..)...can you give example of those who are in Garden and Hell...for example, a 1 year of people in the Garden is 10 years in the Earth"..?
Check below verses brother
فَٱصۡبِرۡ كَمَا صَبَرَ أُوْلُواْ ٱلۡعَزۡمِ مِنَ ٱلرُّسُلِ وَلَا تَسۡتَعۡجِل لَّهُمۡۚ كَأَنَّهُمۡ يَوۡمَ يَرَوۡنَ مَا يُوعَدُونَ لَمۡ يَلۡبَثُوٓاْ إِلَّا سَاعَةٗ مِّن نَّهَارِۭۚ بَلَٰغٞۚ فَهَلۡ يُهۡلَكُ إِلَّا ٱلۡقَوۡمُ ٱلۡفَٰسِقُونَ
(35) So be patient, [O Muḥammad], as were those of determination among the messengers and do not be impatient for them.[1490] It will be - on the Day they see that which they are promised - as though they had not remained [in the world] except an hour of a day. [This is] notification. And will [any] be destroyed except the defiantly disobedient people?

أسد الله من جنود الإمام المهدي
11-01-2020, 09:03 PM
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يَظۡلِمُ ٱلنَّاسَ شَيۡـٔٗا وَلَٰكِنَّ ٱلنَّاسَ أَنفُسَهُمۡ يَظۡلِمُونَ
44. Truly! Allâh wrongs not mankind in aught; but mankind wrong themselves.


آية: 45
وَيَوۡمَ يَحۡشُرُهُمۡ كَأَن لَّمۡ يَلۡبَثُوٓاْ إِلَّا سَاعَةٗ مِّنَ ٱلنَّهَارِ يَتَعَارَفُونَ بَيۡنَهُمۡۚ قَدۡ خَسِرَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِلِقَآءِ ٱللَّهِ وَمَا كَانُواْ مُهۡتَدِينَ
45. And on the Day when He shall gather (resurrect) them together, (it will be) as if they had not stayed (in the life of this world and graves) but an hour of a day. They will recognise each other. Ruined indeed will be those who denied the Meeting with Allâh, and were not guided.

TamerlanKuzgov
11-01-2020, 09:24 PM
آية: 45
وَيَوۡمَ يَحۡشُرُهُمۡ كَأَن لَّمۡ يَلۡبَثُوٓاْ إِلَّا سَاعَةٗ مِّنَ ٱلنَّهَارِ يَتَعَارَفُونَ بَيۡنَهُمۡۚ قَدۡ خَسِرَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِلِقَآءِ ٱللَّهِ وَمَا كَانُواْ مُهۡتَدِينَ
45. And on the Day when He shall gather (resurrect) them together, (it will be) as if they had not stayed (in the life of this world and graves) but an hour of a day.

Ok. Thank you. This thing is not easy to understand. But time has measurement here i minutes and hours. And it has to have measurement in life after death too. Is it not different? Ok, i'll find the answer later. Probably it's not explained yet.

أسد الله من جنود الإمام المهدي
11-01-2020, 09:46 PM
آية: 45
وَيَوۡمَ يَحۡشُرُهُمۡ كَأَن لَّمۡ يَلۡبَثُوٓاْ إِلَّا سَاعَةٗ مِّنَ ٱلنَّهَارِ يَتَعَارَفُونَ بَيۡنَهُمۡۚ قَدۡ خَسِرَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِلِقَآءِ ٱللَّهِ وَمَا كَانُواْ مُهۡتَدِينَ
45. And on the Day when He shall gather (resurrect) them together, (it will be) as if they had not stayed (in the life of this world and graves) but an hour of a day.

Ok. Thank you. This thing is not easy to understand. But time has measurement here i minutes and hours. And it has to have measurement in life after death too. Is it not different? Ok, i'll find the answer later. Probably it's not explained yet.

Alright.. More explanation, one day of Allah's day equal to 1000 years of our days, the imam told as that we entered the last day of Allah's days in 4 th of April 2005, so you can imagine who short our days are compared with Allah's days, for example if you were dead before 10000 days you feel that you been dead only for 10 days.. Add to that and for example when we face something big in our life like an accident, painful event or strong earthquake make us forget every thing for a while till we recover form the shock, so how about the great sight of judgment day.
I hope you understood my point

TamerlanKuzgov
15-01-2020, 04:14 PM
It means that desbelievers who dead for 1000 years ( life time on earth) are remain in Hell a 1 day ( time people will experience after death). So Allah stretched period of a one day for 1000 years ( the way counted on Earth). At the same time they'll feel in a day of Resurrection that they were dead on Earth only 1 hour regarding to the given ayat and words of Allah the Most exalted.

خليل الرحمن
16-01-2020, 03:04 AM
آية: 45
وَيَوۡمَ يَحۡشُرُهُمۡ كَأَن لَّمۡ يَلۡبَثُوٓاْ إِلَّا سَاعَةٗ مِّنَ ٱلنَّهَارِ يَتَعَارَفُونَ بَيۡنَهُمۡۚ قَدۡ خَسِرَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِلِقَآءِ ٱللَّهِ وَمَا كَانُواْ مُهۡتَدِينَ
45. And on the Day when He shall gather (resurrect) them together, (it will be) as if they had not stayed (in the life of this world and graves) but an hour of a day.

Ok. Thank you. This thing is not easy to understand. But time has measurement here i minutes and hours. And it has to have measurement in life after death too. Is it not different? Ok, i'll find the answer later. Probably it's not explained yet.


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In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
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And the messengers and the imams of Allah's books, are the wisest rulers

In particular, the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers of the Lord of the worlds

And the last of the caliphs of God Nasser Muhammad Al-Yamani, was the first to call on humans to achieve the greatest pleasure of God

And all their supporters to God, from the jinn and mankind and from every race to the Day of
Judgment. Either:

salam alikum brother welcome agian there u have inchallah:



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TamerlanKuzgov
17-01-2020, 05:29 AM
Also I found another descripency in translation may be?: "...consequently the year equals three hundred and sixty years of what you count .." Should be " it equals three hundred and sixty thousand years".

ابو محمد الكعبي
17-01-2020, 05:45 AM
اقتباس

ولكن هذه البشرى الأخرى بدخولهم الجنة مرةً أخرى بعد انقضاء الحياة الدنيا وهم قد كانوا فيها من قبل انتهاء الحياة الدنيا، وذلك من يوم موتهم إلى يوم بعثهم، وكذلك أصحاب النار. تصديقاً لقول الله تعالى: {وَحَاقَ بِآلِ فِرْعَوْنَ سُوءُ الْعَذَابِ ﴿45﴾ النَّارُ يُعْرَضُونَ عَلَيْهَا غُدُوًّا وَعَشِيًّا وَيَوْمَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ أَدْخِلُوا آلَ فِرْعَوْنَ أَشَدَّ الْعَذَابِ ﴿46﴾} صدق الله العظيم [غافر].

ونستنبط من هذه الآية المحكمة قول الله تعالى: {يُعْرَضُونَ عَلَيْهَا غُدُوّاً وَعَشِيّاً} صدق الله العظيم، فهذا برهانٌ مبيْنٌ أنّ الكُفار المُعرضين عن الحقّ من ربّهم بعد أن أهلكهم الله أدخلهم النار فور موتهم في نفس اليوم الذي أهلكهم الله فيه فلا يزالون في النار يعذّبون هذه الأيام، فهم يعرضون عليها للتعذيب غدواً وعشياً.

ولا يقصد أنّ في النار غدوٌ وعشيٌ كون النار سراجاً وهاجاً كمثل الشمس؛ بل بحساب أيام الأرض التي فيها غدوٍّ وعشيٍّ، وعليه يعتمد الحساب في الكتاب لقضاء الحياة البرزخيّة في النار أو في الجنة إلى يوم البعث. وكذلك أصحاب الجنة لهم رزقهم فيها غدواً وعشياً حسب أيام الأرض إلى يوم البعث، وكذلك الذين أدخلهم الله جنته من بعد الموت فهم يلبثون فيها غدواً وعشياً على مدار 24 ساعة حسب أيام الأرض، وليس في الجنة غدوٌ ولا عشيٌ. تصديقاً لقول الله تعالى: {مُتَّكِئِينَ فِيهَا عَلَى الْأَرَائِكِ لَا يَرَوْنَ فِيهَا شَمْساً وَلَا زَمْهَرِيراً} صدق الله العظيم [الإنسان:13].

وإنما ذكر الغدو والعشي بحسب أيام الأرض بمعنى أنهم فيها منذ اليوم الذي يموتون فيه يدخلهم جنته وحتى اليوم وهذه الساعة، وهم الآن أحياءٌ عند ربهم يرزقون فيها بكرةً وعشياً، بمعنى أنهم الآن يرزقون فيها بكرةً وعشياً، تصديقاً لقول الله تعالى: {فَخَلَفَ مِن بَعْدِهِمْ خَلْفٌ أَضَاعُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَاتَّبَعُوا الشَّهَوَاتِ فَسَوْفَ يَلْقَوْنَ غَيًّا ﴿59﴾ إِلَّا مَن تَابَ وَآمَنَ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحًا فَأُولَـٰئِكَ يَدْخُلُونَ الْجَنَّةَ وَلَا يُظْلَمُونَ شَيْئًا ﴿60﴾ جَنَّاتِ عَدْنٍ الَّتِي وَعَدَ الرَّحْمـٰنُ عِبَادَهُ بِالْغَيْبِ إِنَّهُ كَانَ وَعْدُهُ مَأْتِيًّا ﴿61﴾ لَّا يَسْمَعُونَ فِيهَا لَغْوًا إِلَّا سَلَامًا وَلَهُمْ رِزْقُهُمْ فِيهَا بُكْرَةً وَعَشِيًّا ﴿62﴾ تِلْكَ الْجَنَّةُ الَّتِي نُورِثُ مِنْ عِبَادِنَا مَن كَانَ تَقِيًّا ﴿63﴾} صدق الله العظيم [مريم]


https://www.nasser-yamani.com/showthread.php?p=37473

TamerlanKuzgov
18-01-2020, 04:40 PM
اقتباس

ولكن هذه البشرى الأخرى بدخولهم الجنة مرةً أخرى بعد انقضاء الحياة الدنيا وهم قد كانوا فيها من قبل انتهاء الحياة الدنيا، وذلك من يوم موتهم إلى يوم بعثهم، وكذلك أصحاب النار. تصديقاً لقول الله تعالى: {وَحَاقَ بِآلِ فِرْعَوْنَ سُوءُ الْعَذَابِ ﴿45﴾ النَّارُ يُعْرَضُونَ عَلَيْهَا غُدُوًّا وَعَشِيًّا وَيَوْمَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ أَدْخِلُوا آلَ فِرْعَوْنَ أَشَدَّ الْعَذَابِ ﴿46﴾} صدق الله العظيم [غافر].

ونستنبط من هذه الآية المحكمة قول الله تعالى: {يُعْرَضُونَ عَلَيْهَا غُدُوّاً وَعَشِيّاً} صدق الله العظيم، فهذا برهانٌ مبيْنٌ أنّ الكُفار المُعرضين عن الحقّ من ربّهم بعد أن أهلكهم الله أدخلهم النار فور موتهم في نفس اليوم الذي أهلكهم الله فيه فلا يزالون في النار يعذّبون هذه الأيام، فهم يعرضون عليها للتعذيب غدواً وعشياً.

ولا يقصد أنّ في النار غدوٌ وعشيٌ كون النار سراجاً وهاجاً كمثل الشمس؛ بل بحساب أيام الأرض التي فيها غدوٍّ وعشيٍّ، وعليه يعتمد الحساب في الكتاب لقضاء الحياة البرزخيّة في النار أو في الجنة إلى يوم البعث. وكذلك أصحاب الجنة لهم رزقهم فيها غدواً وعشياً حسب أيام الأرض إلى يوم البعث، وكذلك الذين أدخلهم الله جنته من بعد الموت فهم يلبثون فيها غدواً وعشياً على مدار 24 ساعة حسب أيام الأرض، وليس في الجنة غدوٌ ولا عشيٌ. تصديقاً لقول الله تعالى: {مُتَّكِئِينَ فِيهَا عَلَى الْأَرَائِكِ لَا يَرَوْنَ فِيهَا شَمْساً وَلَا زَمْهَرِيراً} صدق الله العظيم [الإنسان:13].

وإنما ذكر الغدو والعشي بحسب أيام الأرض بمعنى أنهم فيها منذ اليوم الذي يموتون فيه يدخلهم جنته وحتى اليوم وهذه الساعة، وهم الآن أحياءٌ عند ربهم يرزقون فيها بكرةً وعشياً، بمعنى أنهم الآن يرزقون فيها بكرةً وعشياً، تصديقاً لقول الله تعالى: {فَخَلَفَ مِن بَعْدِهِمْ خَلْفٌ أَضَاعُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَاتَّبَعُوا الشَّهَوَاتِ فَسَوْفَ يَلْقَوْنَ غَيًّا ﴿59﴾ إِلَّا مَن تَابَ وَآمَنَ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحًا فَأُولَـٰئِكَ يَدْخُلُونَ الْجَنَّةَ وَلَا يُظْلَمُونَ شَيْئًا ﴿60﴾ جَنَّاتِ عَدْنٍ الَّتِي وَعَدَ الرَّحْمـٰنُ عِبَادَهُ بِالْغَيْبِ إِنَّهُ كَانَ وَعْدُهُ مَأْتِيًّا ﴿61﴾ لَّا يَسْمَعُونَ فِيهَا لَغْوًا إِلَّا سَلَامًا وَلَهُمْ رِزْقُهُمْ فِيهَا بُكْرَةً وَعَشِيًّا ﴿62﴾ تِلْكَ الْجَنَّةُ الَّتِي نُورِثُ مِنْ عِبَادِنَا مَن كَانَ تَقِيًّا ﴿63﴾} صدق الله العظيم [مريم]


Thank you for your reply. I've translated your arabic text by Internet. Why Allah says that thousand years of earth is a one day in his count? But you (if i am not mistaken) say that all hell companions as well as Garden companions have earth time there. Now it's more confusing for me.


http://www.mahdi-alumma.com/showthread.php?p=37473

ابو محمد الكعبي
18-01-2020, 05:13 PM
I asked our brothers or sisters to translate this bayan for you and others

TamerlanKuzgov
18-01-2020, 06:40 PM
Thank you again, brother. I've found from the Imam's good staement and words of Allah the Almighty which say about time in Hell...it is not few days: "In the word of Allah the Most High: {And they say: Fire will not touch us but for a few days. Say: Have you received a promise from Allah? Then Allah will not fail to perform His promise. Or do you speak against Allah what you know not?(80) Yea, whoever earns evil and his sins has surrounded him, those are the companions of the Fire; therein they abide.(81)}Truthful Allah the Great [Al-Baqarah] 2:80-81

أسد الله من جنود الإمام المهدي
18-01-2020, 09:10 PM
Thank you again, brother. I've found from the Imam's good staement and words of Allah the Almighty which say about time in Hell...it is not few days: "In the word of Allah the Most High: {And they say: Fire will not touch us but for a few days. Say: Have you received a promise from Allah? Then Allah will not fail to perform His promise. Or do you speak against Allah what you know not?(80) Yea, whoever earns evil and his sins has surrounded him, those are the companions of the Fire; therein they abide.(81)}Truthful Allah the Great [Al-Baqarah] 2:80-81

Correct it's not few days, but there is a different between Barzak and judgement day I was talking about verses that describes disbelieves talking in AL hasher day.
I'm feeling Good that you finally got your answer :)

TamerlanKuzgov
19-01-2020, 07:51 PM
Correct it's not few days, but there is a different between Barzak and judgement day I was talking about verses that describes disbelieves talking in AL hasher day.
I'm feeling Good that you finally got your answer :)

To say honestly, i didn't find answer. Why Allah says a one day for him is 1000 years for us? And how it concerns with the companions of Hell and Garden. How time counts for them? Like the Earth time or different? No answer was given. I've understood it as a one day stretched for 1000 years. But no answer am i right or not. I am confused.

أسد الله من جنود الإمام المهدي
19-01-2020, 10:50 PM
To say honestly, i didn't find answer. Why Allah says a one day for him is 1000 years for us? And how it concerns with the companions of Hell and Garden. How time counts for them? Like the Earth time or different? No answer was given. I've understood it as a one day stretched for 1000 years. But no answer am i right or not. I am confused.

I thought you understood the statement the was shared by our brother in Arabic

If this statement got translated you will get better understanding.. As for now I will try to answer your questions

There are 2 stages that comes to every person after dying
First is call Barzak and it's for soul only happens after death and the days there measured like our timing here on earth till the judgment day

Second stage is called the judgement days and it happens when life ends on earth and every creatures (since the beginning of creation) summain in AL hasher.. That day Allah will restore the bodies with the soul and we start to live the eternal life in heaven or hell

As for Allah's days ( 1000 years of our days) it starts with the judgment day and that's why they feel the time they spend was too short

If you still confused please let us know surly there are supports here better than me that can get you to understand