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مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : TA HA 20: 102...need some explanation.



TamerlanKuzgov
15-01-2014, 07:17 PM
Salam Aleykum for all brothers in religion,
Could Imam Mahdi ( peace be upon him and his family, his grand father Mohammed Prophet as well as for all messengers and followers of Allah Almighty) explain a sense of TA HA 20: 102....words "blue eyed" make some questions..

يَوْمَ يُنفَخُ فِي الصُّورِ وَنَحْشُرُ الْمُجْرِمِينَ يَوْمَئِذٍ زُرْقًا
"The Day the Horn will be blown. And We will gather the criminals, that Day, blue-eyed"

Thanks. Salam .

راضيه بالنعيم الاعظم
15-01-2014, 10:28 PM
الجواب : مقتبس من بيانات الإمام ناصر محمد اليماني
الموضوع: الصور والناقور

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رابط البيـــــان الأصلي (http://www.mahdi-alumma.com/showthread.php?p=34502)

تتمة الجواب : مقتبس من بيانات الإمام ناصر محمد اليماني.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم والصلاة والسلام على جدي محمد وآله الأطهار وجميع أنصار الله الواحد القهار إلى اليوم الآخر..

سلام الله عليكم ورحمته وبركاته حبيبي في الله. وإنما الأزرق هو لون الليل الأسود. وقال الله تعالى:
{يَوْمَ يُنْفَخُ فِي الصُّورِ وَنَحْشُرُ الْمُجْرِمِينَ يَوْمَئِذٍ زُرْقًا} صدق الله العظيم [طه:102]

ويقصد لون وجوههم زرقاء اللون مسودة. تصديقاً لقول الله تعالى:
{وَيَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ تَرَى الَّذِينَ كَذَبُواْ عَلَى اللَّهِ وُجُوهُهُم مُّسْوَدَّةٌ أَلَيْسَ فِي جَهَنَّمَ مَثْوًى لِّلْمُتَكَبِّرِينَ} [الزمر:60]

وقال الله تعالى:
{وَالَّذِينَ كَسَبُواْ السَّيِّئَاتِ جَزَآءُ سَيِّئَةٍ بِمِثْلِهَا وَتَرْهَقُهُمْ ذِلَّةٌ مَّا لَهُمْ مِّنَ اللَّهِ مِنْ عَاصِمٍ كَأَنَّمَا أُغْشِيَتْ وُجُوهُهُمْ قِطَعاً مِّنَ الْلَّيْلِ مُظْلِماً أُوْلَـئِكَ أَصْحَابُ النَّارِ هُمْ فِيهَا خَالِدُونَ} صدق الله العظيم [يونس:27]

وأما بالنسبة للحكمة فذروتها الدعوة لله بحكمة وخلق حسن. ومن الحكمة الصبر والحلم عن الناس. ومن الحكمة عدم التكبر والتواضع للمؤمنين. ومن الحكمة أحاديث الحق التي يعلمها الرسل للمؤمنين. والحكمة والعلم نور على نور. وسلام على المرسلين والحمد لله رب العالمين..

اخوكم الإمام ناصر محمد اليماني

راضيه بالنعيم الاعظم
15-01-2014, 11:20 PM
In the name of Allah the Most Merciful
The link bellow is for the statement of the Imam Nasser Mohammad the Yamany peace be upon him about this verse from the Quran and the real meaning of it is not as in your question; "The Day the Horn will be blown. And We will gather the criminals, that Day, blue-eyed" TA HA 20: 102
"Also this translation from a different source for the same verse [20:102] "That is the day when the horn is blown, and we summon the guilty on that day blue
But the Imam Mahdi had explain it as I understood that the blowing is not in the horn because there is no mentioning for it in the verse. However the blowing is in the creation, which is the remains of the dead bodies with the word of be and it will be on the day of resurrection.
As it is in this verse:[30:25] And of His signs is this, that the heaven and the earth subsist by His command. Then when He calls you — from the earth — lo! you come forth..
The word blue in the verse means the color of the black night and it means that their faces would be the color of blackish blue as Allah the Most High Said:"And on the day of Resurrection thou wilt see those who lied against Allah, their faces will be blackened. Is there not in hell an abode for the proud?" 39:60
Also Allah the Most High Said:
And those who earn evil, the punishment of an evil is the like thereof, and abasement will cover them — they will have none to protect them from Allah — as if their faces had been covered with slices of the dense darkness of night. These are the companions of the Fire; therein they will abide." 10:27
http://www.mahdi-alumma.com/showthread.php?3879

So we see in the same Verse 20:102 TA HA there is no mentioning of "eye" in the verse and that how with the wrong translation for the misunderstood meaning mislead us, and we Thank and praise Allah the Living Loving God for raising among us the Mahdi who was taught by Allah the Great to show us the right path and the true meaning of the Quran from the Quran with guidance from Allah the Most Wise

البصيرة
16-01-2014, 06:31 AM
ALSALAM ALIKUM, brother I just thought I make a close illustration of the severity of the beaten of humans and how that can affect their outer appearance. So to bring it closer to your imagination of the beaten the kafir has to go through, and we seek refuge from Allah from such ending. But all I can present to you is what I see when the physical appearance would change in our world,. Forexample,when you see a picture of a beat up boxer and due to the sever beaten his face will turn into darkened blue. I have put up a picture I goggled to make an illustration of how I see color changes in a beaten. Remember the imam has not said to me or any of the followers that this is a picture, but he did describe what the Ayah is talking about. So this picture is my own thinking of what can be meant, I present it you to have somewhat understanding of how I understood the imam paragraph,keep in mind the disclaimer when I said the imam did not say here is a picture, but only he gave the guided understanding of the verses, so for me I see how faces will change of a beaten in this world, and also concider I am not saying this exactly how it shows in hereafter. As you know in the here after,there the punishment is sever and it will only be revealed in that day. So this picture is meant only to show that look how in this world when someone gets a beaten how his face turns, and the question is so what about the hereafter which is more harsh on the that physical body?.
I chose this picture from google
http://www.examiner.com/article/gabrielle-aubrey-has-black-eye-gets-restraining-order-against-olivier-martinez

1923

العبادي
16-01-2014, 10:45 AM
This is the same picture that comes to my mined every time I read this verse ever since I was a childe

thank you البصير
for putting it into words

TamerlanKuzgov
16-01-2014, 06:55 PM
In the name of Allah the Most Merciful
The link bellow is for the statement of the Imam Nasser Mohammad the Yamany peace be upon him about this verse from the Quran and the real meaning of it is not as in your question; "The Day the Horn will be blown. And We will gather the criminals, that Day, blue-eyed" TA HA 20: 102
"Also this translation from a different source for the same verse [20:102] "That is the day when the horn is blown, and we summon the guilty on that day blue
But the Imam Mahdi had explain it as I understood that the blowing is not in the horn because there is no mentioning for it in the verse. However the blowing is in the creation, which is the remains of the dead bodies with the word of be and it will be on the day of resurrection.
As it is in this verse:[30:25] And of His signs is this, that the heaven and the earth subsist by His command. Then when He calls you — from the earth — lo! you come forth..
The word blue in the verse means the color of the black night and it means that their faces would be the color of blackish blue as Allah the Most High Said:"And on the day of Resurrection thou wilt see those who lied against Allah, their faces will be blackened. Is there not in hell an abode for the proud?" 39:60
Also Allah the Most High Said:
And those who earn evil, the punishment of an evil is the like thereof, and abasement will cover them — they will have none to protect them from Allah — as if their faces had been covered with slices of the dense darkness of night. These are the companions of the Fire; therein they will abide." 10:27
http://www.mahdi-alumma.com/showthread.php?3879

So we see in the same Verse 20:102 TA HA there is no mentioning of "eye" in the verse and that how with the wrong translation for the misunderstood meaning mislead us, and we Thank and praise Allah the Living Loving God for raising among us the Mahdi who was taught by Allah the Great to show us the right path and the true meaning of the Quran from the Quran with guidance from Allah the Most Wise

Thanks for everyone who tried to explain it. Now it is clear.

البصيرة
17-01-2014, 07:29 AM
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Alhmdullah we have being given the true knowledge of Quran by Allahs' mercy. All thanks is due to Allah the out most beloved
راضيه بالنعيم الأعظم راضيه بالنعيم الأعظم,العبادي, I am honored to have such intellectual brothers and sisters TamerlanKuzgov and

TamerlanKuzgov
17-01-2014, 09:46 PM
In the name of Allah Most Merciful and Glorious,

All praises to Allah for everything as He s the One who gives us everything..

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Alhmdullah we have being given the true knowledge of Quran by Allahs' mercy. All thanks is due to Allah the out most beloved
راضيه بالنعيم الأعظم راضيه بالنعيم الأعظم,العبادي, I am honored to have such intellectual brothers and sisters TamerlanKuzgov and


May Allah bless you for such words..Thank you.

راضيه بالنعيم الاعظم
18-01-2014, 03:50 PM
[55:0] In the name of God, Most Beneficent, Most Merciful

55:1 The Beneficent
55:2 Taught the Quran.
55:3 He created man,
55:4 (Taught him explanation (of Quran.

That man is the Mahdi the one who rule of what Allah the Ruler and Judge in the Holy Quran which has the Law of Allah The Wise.
All praises is due to Allah Who taught us with His Mercy by sending His Khalifa the Mahdi Imam Nasser Mohammad the Yamany peace be upon him for the whole world and guided us and without his guidance we would be from among the lost and losers in this world and the here after.

راضيه بالنعيم الاعظم
20-01-2014, 09:46 PM
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Alhmdullah we have being given the true knowledge of Quran by Allahs' mercy. All thanks is due to Allah the out most beloved
راضيه بالنعيم الأعظم راضيه بالنعيم الأعظم,العبادي, I am honored to have such intellectual brothers and sisters TamerlanKuzgov and

In the name of God, Most Beneficent, Most Merciful
We ask Allah to reward you brother for your help in explaining and if I may add this Verse

And if thou couldst see when the angels cause to die those who disbelieve, smiting their faces and their backs, and (saying): Taste the punishment of burning}8:50
{وَلَوْ تَرَىٰ إِذْ يَتَوَفَّى الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا ۙ الْمَلَائِكَةُ يَضْرِبُونَ وُجُوهَهُمْ وَأَدْبَارَهُمْ وَذُوقُوا عَذَابَ الْحَرِيقِ} سورة الأنفال (50) صدق الله العظيم